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July 14, 2025 · 1h 14m

FLAG THEORY: WHY BITCOINERS SHOULD GET A SECOND PASSPORT | Katie Ananina

"You can't put all your eggs in one basket. You can't have one citizenship as a Bitcoiner. You must have a hedge in place."

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1 What flag theory for me is, is basically limiting your dependency on any one particular state.

3 We are taking assets away from a centralized entity and educating ourselves on how we can 4 have this radical ownership.

8 And only 3% of people actually live outside of the country of their birth, which makes it 97% monopoly over you.

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What flag theory for me is, is basically limiting your dependency on any one particular state.

We're trying to take control back by self-custody.

We are taking assets away from a centralized entity and educating ourselves on how we can

have this radical ownership.

Well, same goes for your citizenship.

If you're born in one country, you only have one citizenship.

The country basically has monopoly over you.

And only 3% of people actually live outside of the country of their birth, which makes it 97% monopoly over you.

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"You can't put all your eggs in one basket. You can't have one citizenship as a Bitcoiner. You must have a hedge in place."

Walker America sits down with Katie Ananina, founder of Plan B Passport and now with CitizenX, to explore how Bitcoiners can secure their sovereignty by stacking second passports, leveraging flag theory, and opting out of failing nation-states.

Katie shares her incredible journey from pro athlete in post-Soviet Russia to U.S. immigrant, entrepreneur, and Bitcoin pioneer. She breaks down the sovereign individual thesis, the rise of Bitcoin citizenship programs like El Salvador’s, and why jurisdictions like Serbia, Argentina, and the Caribbean are leading the charge.